Hey Guys, was checking things out over at Father Bob's http://www.fatherbob.tk/ and came across this great post and grat thought provoking coments. Seems there's some involved discussion going on over some controversial sermon topic.
'SPP is not a comfortable church' is probably a paraphrase rather than a direct quote, but it's one of the things I remember from this morning's 11am Mass.' - Remember, PREACHING as opposed to TEACHING tends to messiness and lack of neat and tidy outcome. Preaching is meant to "break open the Word" as they say and that breaking open leaves a mess!Respect. Bob Maguire.
One of the responses started out with me going 'you idiot', Maybe they're low standards, but maybe being engaged with a community on a personal level is just a higher priority for me. With me assuming that the person was only in it for the sense of community, and what they could get out of it. You know, a 'me' church; but they finished with a point I couldnt fault 'Kids (read teenagers) push boundaries (for a living) and need their boundaries pushed without being judged, its an fact of development and essential for growth. You, Bob, connect with young people, and devoted healthy catholics want to have their boundaries pushed so they can grow. ' Obviously this person digs the conflict, cos they know its casuing growth. Their engagement isnt just over having some good friends to hang out with, or feeling better on a Sunday, but about actually getting change!
It led to this exchange with a friend:
yup. do we push enough boundaries?
it's so true, in spiritual growth, etc etc do we? I don't think so
there are no major fights at mitcham at the moment
me either. we're too comfortable. opur standards are so broad, and too
low. And frankly, I d0nt think we epxect enough of each other
it's very friendly
so how do we do it? what should we be doing? what boundaries should we be pushing?
good questions
So yeah, what do you think? Is Mitcham too safe? Too comfortable? Should we be fighting?
How do we do it? What boundaries should we push?
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2 comments:
friendliness is good...
I agree, we should be exploring the tough issues, even if tears flow. Let's talk, argue, about the theological differences we have. Even though we're baptists, we should have differences! It's a sign of individual thinking and understanding.
I like individual thinking and understanding, speshially when everyone else is doing it!
Scotty :D
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